tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post3353684889188161120..comments2024-03-28T06:33:02.061-04:00Comments on Encyclopedia of American Loons: #453: Mark ArmitageG.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08875360501107597863noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-60367474624858129482019-09-24T13:41:22.220-04:002019-09-24T13:41:22.220-04:00The author stated that he read research papers fro...The author stated that he read research papers from ICR grads and said they were highly questionable. By any chance are there links to these papers? I want to make an addition to RationalWikiUndead EAShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06718747336692815843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-30377845153112377302018-09-01T12:09:16.558-04:002018-09-01T12:09:16.558-04:00Typical nonsense from you folks. Don't confuse...Typical nonsense from you folks. Don't confuse the facts just write a hit piece on Armitage. You're BOGUS!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14030500479994384258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-53695195826498733382017-06-25T02:19:16.927-04:002017-06-25T02:19:16.927-04:00Me? Yes, I am. However, as far as this set of comm...Me? Yes, I am. However, as far as this set of comments go (with Mr. Rimney and "Cankuwicasa"), even a thoughtful evolutionist might say the same. We should all recognize that there are intelligent, well-informed people on both sides of the issue and not resort to generalized denigration. The Old Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283459097219407392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-2433343653920753432017-06-24T03:07:35.757-04:002017-06-24T03:07:35.757-04:00You are a creationist then?You are a creationist then?Frohickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06267051418863540418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-55963279715395306942017-02-01T02:06:51.256-05:002017-02-01T02:06:51.256-05:00LOL!! I love how this article attempts to defame a...LOL!! I love how this article attempts to defame and ridicule Mark Armitage as a "crackpot" along with all the other 5th grade insults it could find. It doesnt offer any evidence to the contrary of his findings, it just regurgitates conformist modes of over-opinionated arrogance. What's even better is that now in 2016 the Smithsonian is publishing articles on soft tissue found in a 68 million year old T-Rex. I guess Armitage wasnt a "crackpot" after all. Oh, and anyone who has taken a general chemistry course knows that carbon cant survive that long on earth. If this entire planet was pure carbon it would deteriorate in about a million years, and soft tissue is a LOT smaller than a planet. InquiriousMaximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08478205063569774884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-37440024856209637072016-08-24T16:13:32.981-04:002016-08-24T16:13:32.981-04:00I appreciate your desire to look at this logically...I appreciate your desire to look at this logically. What you seem to be missing is that what we're considering isn't science, but education. Unfortunately, professors and textbooks can say a lot of things are so, which have never been demonstrated by experimental results or confirmed by repeated observations. It is very easy to impress a student of the truth of such matters when you are an authority figure upon whom their grade and future career depends. <br /> <br />My logic does not extend to all fields of study, or for that matter study under all conditions and educators. However, since we're taking the average of students who mostly go to public schools and state/secular colleges where articles of faith contrary to belief in creation are taught as facts (which include things not part of evolution but conducive to changing beliefs from creation to evolution), it's understandable that you got the impression I was thinking of education in general. Consider (as an extreme example) the probability that more educated than non-educated people in the Soviet Union during the mid-20th century believed in Lysenkoism. The Old Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283459097219407392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-13578478354249590042016-08-23T23:15:30.774-04:002016-08-23T23:15:30.774-04:00Your argument is quite weak. Only a person who kno...Your argument is quite weak. Only a person who knows nothing about science will make such an argument. Science is pretty black and white. Either you get the desired result or you don't. It is hard to brainwash someone when they are clearly getting a different result. <br /><br />Based on your logic the more one studies a subject the more they are indoctrinated, so basically folks who are less educated are comparatively better then folks with more education? Do you see a problem with your logic?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14276614969647123188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-71229377854765303562016-08-07T21:44:10.742-04:002016-08-07T21:44:10.742-04:00I don't doubt that in the least. On average, t...I don't doubt that in the least. On average, the mass of creationists are likely to be less educated than evolutionists. The more one is exposed to public school and college indoctrination, the more likely they are to believe what they are taught. The Old Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283459097219407392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-30827356934688495832016-08-06T05:15:23.100-04:002016-08-06T05:15:23.100-04:00We know that various studies and research show tha...We know that various studies and research show that creationists are likely to be less educated. Ping me if you need me to back up my claim :) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14276614969647123188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-7609477401065122772016-01-21T18:28:29.066-05:002016-01-21T18:28:29.066-05:00If you can show where I ignorantly ascribe ignoran...If you can show where I ignorantly ascribe ignorance to all non-creationists, then that comment is justified. Otherwise, at best you complete the proverbial portrait of We Three.The Old Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283459097219407392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-36744320728461234292016-01-21T18:23:55.170-05:002016-01-21T18:23:55.170-05:00It does seem hard to believe that scientists could...It does seem hard to believe that scientists could "be so pig-headed and narrow-minded," but as you said yourself, "...when people decide one or the other should be eliminated...we have a problem." The scientific establishment today has determined that religious explanations of the past must be eliminated -- indeed, when you apply science, the study of natural processes, to the attempt to divine everything about the past, the supernatural is left out by definition and necessity. The Old Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283459097219407392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-57903249538794118512016-01-21T13:33:27.215-05:002016-01-21T13:33:27.215-05:00And the pot calls the kettle black.And the pot calls the kettle black.Cankuwicasahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00627554288015161698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-39682940417501680192016-01-21T13:32:44.320-05:002016-01-21T13:32:44.320-05:00Yes, I remember a philosophy paper I wrote back in...Yes, I remember a philosophy paper I wrote back in college on Edwin Abbott's "Flatland: A Romance in Many Dimensions." In it I made the observation that as soon as the old orthodoxy is out the door the new takes hold. Admittedly, that's not an original observation, but one I came to independently. Once something becomes set in stone it becomes an impediment to all truth.<br /><br />There is no genuine dichotomy between science and religion, ultimately true science and true religion are one in the same. Orthodoxy forces our eyes closed and prevents us from being legitimately scientific. Empiricism demands that we see what is actually there, no matter whose toes it steps upon.<br /><br />Even if one discards out of hand any conclusions related to a factual matter, the matter itself cannot appropriately be ignored. There may be other explanations for the presence of soft tissue, but if we dismissively ridicule the observation of that tissue we will never arrive at any kind of authoritative explanation.Cankuwicasahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00627554288015161698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-3140102088584089732015-03-23T00:29:05.601-04:002015-03-23T00:29:05.601-04:00Way to show your own ignorance, Mr. Rimney. Makes...Way to show your own ignorance, Mr. Rimney. Makes it plenty clear that you are the one with the closed mind. The Old Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283459097219407392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-47290262871916487512015-03-21T23:30:11.253-04:002015-03-21T23:30:11.253-04:00Creationists are the most ignorant people on the p...Creationists are the most ignorant people on the planet. Let them believe whatever lies they like, facts are the last thing they want to hear.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07474943935572162628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-48549012551859387342014-08-07T00:56:32.677-04:002014-08-07T00:56:32.677-04:00liberals are incapable of anything else, because t...liberals are incapable of anything else, because the facts are always against themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-5011846150805862352014-08-02T15:38:06.399-04:002014-08-02T15:38:06.399-04:00However, we must not forget that science is search...However, we must not forget that science is searching for truth, not political correctness. For example, when Helio-centrism was suggested, I am sure a lot of "rice bowls" were overturned. The problem in todays day is that so many people refuse to think outside the box and humbly admit that they might be wrong.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14507685189659766282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-46126835318245964932014-07-25T22:13:03.059-04:002014-07-25T22:13:03.059-04:00Surprised at the number of comments supportive of ...Surprised at the number of comments supportive of (at least sympathetic with) Armitage as well as the emotional opinionated vitriol spouted at him in the article. Remember friends that work such as Armitage's threaten not only the worldview of certain folks, but also their rice bowl. That is a combination that is not easily overlooked. Porzitskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11392919148612521358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-88843652038056036622014-07-25T03:18:53.683-04:002014-07-25T03:18:53.683-04:00Scientists throughout the ages have believed in fl...Scientists throughout the ages have believed in flat earths and lightning gods and more, but we still progressed scientifically. Maybe it just happened by *magic*, since it would be impossible for those guys to have legitimate science. (sarcasm there)<br /><br />The ancient Greeks computed the size of the Earth using the shadow of the sun despite believing in Zeus.<br />The ancient people of India invented zero, despite believing in hundreds of gods.<br />The Vikings made it to North America despite believing in Thor and Odin.<br /><br />Geometry, Mathematics, Astronomy, Chemistry, etc... all developed despite people believing in dozens of different gods.<br /><br />So, I posit LOGICALLY that science and theism can co-exist. True science and True religion can exist together. It is only when people decide one or the other should be eliminated that we have a problem. Religious zealots who think science is worthless or scientists who think religion has no place in the life of man.<br /><br />Get your evolved head out from your behind and use it as God intended... to think. *insert chuckle*<br /><br />Honestly, the idea that scientists would be so pig-headed and narrow minded is sad. To quote Hubert Farnsworth, "Just knowing we're in the same genus makes me embarrassed to call myself homo."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07539294719426427385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-65431966624659209872014-07-24T17:26:27.919-04:002014-07-24T17:26:27.919-04:00That’s what we get for patronizing a blog with juv...That’s what we get for patronizing a blog with juvenile name calling built into the title.dehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06392520414926772296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-41121966771063199352014-07-24T17:25:24.016-04:002014-07-24T17:25:24.016-04:00And the name calling! The refuge of a man with no ...And the name calling! The refuge of a man with no facts to back up his opinions. I expect this comment will also be “removed by a blog administrator."dehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06392520414926772296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-33251711129438413462013-10-16T06:38:45.574-04:002013-10-16T06:38:45.574-04:00Another victim of the Darwinist Inquisition- Mark ...Another victim of the Darwinist Inquisition- Mark Armitage. Instead of disputing his research with facts & evidence this site just attacks him. How crude & juvenile.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07905058811123225422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-66355031426811250772013-09-28T20:19:05.632-04:002013-09-28T20:19:05.632-04:00Wow, I've heard of websites dedicated to hatin...Wow, I've heard of websites dedicated to hating groups of people before, but I've never encountered one before. Doesn't it gnaw at your own craw quite a bit to spend so much time hating on people? The Old Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283459097219407392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-26100271843290024472013-09-21T02:17:59.714-04:002013-09-21T02:17:59.714-04:00The very day Armitage's paper "Soft sheet...The very day Armitage's paper "Soft sheets of fibrillar bone from a fossil of the supraorbital horn of the dinosaur Triceratops horridus" was featured online (February 13, 2013)<br /><br />http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0065128113000020<br /><br />3 professors met (on a committee Armitage served on) in a secret<br />committee meeting and decided to terminate him from his position as the<br />Supervisor of the Electron and Confocal Microscope laboratory lab at Cal<br />State University Northridge, which he installed and ran for 3 years. He was<br />terminated for "no reason" on March 5, 2013.<br /><br />I hope what happened to Armitage is documented in the next edition of:<br /><br />"Slaughter of the Dissidents" by Dr. Jerry Bergman (2011), which documents<br />widespread discrimination against Darwin skeptics in academia and within<br />the scientific community.<br /><br />Soft Tissues in Triceratops Horn<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QdrxFLxVaE<br /><br />http://creation.com/mark-h-armitage<br /><br />He is currently seeking relief in a legal action for wrongful termination and religious discrimination by the University.<br /><br />http://kgov.com/Mark-Armitage-dinosaur-soft-tissue<br /><br />Radio interview with Mark Armitage [August 26, 2013]<br />http://brokenroadradio.com/morning-show-august-26-2013-click-here-to-reveal-links<br /><br />Expelled Professor and Microscopist Mark Armitage Responds to his Critics<br />http://www.uncommondescent.com/intellectual-freedom/expelled-professor-mark-armitage-responds-to-his-critics<br />Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09630890163958807048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-414946164942126209.post-58908765605718645082013-09-18T08:22:29.960-04:002013-09-18T08:22:29.960-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Glenn Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11839123359809900353noreply@blogger.com