Many
Christian Nationalists shy away from the label. Pastor, speaker at
various wingnut events,
author and podcaster (the Contra Mundum podcast) Andrew Isker does not.
As far as Isker is concerned,
“America belongs to Jesus Christ”, and that means that it belongs to
white people who share his views on various matters. Isker considers white nationalist activist Sam Francis a “prophet of our time” and thinks that the US ought to deport everyimmigrant (“[f]oreigners out, foreigners out, America for Americans, foreigners out”);
to clarify what “immigrant” means this context, Isker suggested that people granted citizenship after 1965 should be “subject to review,”
including on whether they have worked “for Left causes.” The claim that America
belongs to Jesus Christ means, moreover, that Jewish people shouldn’t have “a
seat at the table” and that Judaism should have no place in the US (here is a report of an Isker podcast interview with holocaust denier Ron Unz for context) – Isker is even annoyed by the phrase ‘Judeo-Christian’ insofar as it implies rejecting “the exclusivity of Christ”. Note that
‘Christian’ for Isker doesn’t mean just anyone who calls themselves ‘Christian’
but people who shares his views on both political and theological issues:
mainstream Christianity has, by contrast, been corrupted by “an epidemic of spiritual homosexuality”. He does, of course, not fancy
Muslims either: complaining about mosques calling Muslims prayer, Isker
asserted that “[t]hat stuff cannot be happening in your country, right? —
they [in particular Rep. Ilhan Omar]
have to go back.”
As for other groups, Isker has pointed out that the practice of slavery in America was not a sin: “I’m not going to call
something a sin that the Bible does not condemn as a sin” (in fairness,
there is a degree of consistency there that you might think other fundies
should take note of; we fear, however, that many of them secretly do), and he
likes to point out the violence and evil of Black people in the US, such as “sadistic,
violent criminals” like The Central Park 5; of course, the Central Park 5 were exonerated,
but to Isker they obviously “were guilty as sin” because they were
Black, sadistic, violent criminals. During the run-up to the 2024 election, Isker defended the rumor that Haitian immigrants were eating pets in Springfield, Ohio, mostly
because it’s what he wanted to believe but officially on the grounds that city
officials denied the rumor and Isker doesn’t trust city offocials. And people from India are definitely not welcome in America:
“People are what they worship, and they worship poop demons.”
As Isker and his podcast cohost C. Jay Engel see it,
the only people who have a legitimate right to a homeland in the US are “Heritage
Americans”,
which is apparently a concept that “affirms the domination and pre-eminence
of European derived peoples, their institutions and their way of life.”
When pressed, they admitted that “the blacks of the Old South” would be
allowed to stay, at least as long as they did not try to “leverage their
experience for the purposes of political guilt;” that said, Isker also
thinks that “WE SHOULD TURN CIVIL RIGHTS BACK TO THE STATES” and that “the
1960s ruined everything”. Of course, Isker and Engel deny that their views are racist; they also claim that “the very concept of ‘racism’
was literally a creation of communists.”
It is not only immigrants, Jewish people and Black
people that are problematic: women are problematic, too.
According to Isker, “[y]ou can have either women’s liberation or
civilization, not both”; besides, “no one can give me an argument why
universal suffrage is good.” And it is notable that Isker is vehemently opposed to Riley Gaines' campaign against trans athletes competing in women’s sports, insofar
as the campaign ignores the fact that women shouldn’t even be able to play
sports to begin with.
Politics
A big fan of Donald Trump and Trump’s administration,
Isker has characterized Trump’s second term as “the Nixon second term we never got to have” and hoped that the administration would “replace Earth Day with Nixon Day” (here,
for context, is Isker’s take on American history). Indeed, as Isker sees it,
“in order to restore the original constitutional order and the rights
therein, it requires a unitary executive” and “I would like to dissolve
Congress and the judiciary and vest all power into a sovereign ruler named
Donald J. Trump.” Both Isker and Engel have explicitly stated that they “hate
democracy.”
Meanwhile, everyone who is in any way “obstructing” Trump’s agenda, e.g. by disagreeing with it,
are “domestic enemies” and “need to go to jail”, meaning that
also “U.S. senators need to go to jail ... This is war time.”
Here is Isker praising Trump and JD Vance for (what he thinks is) lying about their
position on abortion during the 2024 campaign: “they flat out lied and I'm
like, ‘yeah, they should’;” firstly, pro-choice people “do not deserve
the truth” and not “tell[ing] the truth on that issue [is] the kind of
Machiavellianism [we need]. People maybe will be mad at me for saying this but
I think like we should support that.” Regarding the 2024 election, Isker was of course adamant that Kamala Harris was Biblically unqualified to be president.
Isker and Engel will of course weigh in on current
politics relatively often (e.g. here),
although their views on various issues are presented through such a distorting
clown mirror that it is sometimes unclear what they think their consistently
deranged views are views on; at least with regard to foreign policy,
Isker maintains that any country that receives U.S. foreign aid “should be colonies of America”
and that the US “should be able to exploit all their natural resources as
much as we want.” When weighing in on the murder of Charlie Kirk, Isker was
of course aware that he had a lot of extreme silliness to outsilly, so he wanted to see “a maximum amount of force is wielded against the left in this country to
such an extent that even I might get uncomfortable”. Isker doesn’t easily
feel uncomfortable, but “if I start to be uncomfortable, then it’s like,
okay, we are on the right track.” Of course, like most deranged and
bloodthirsty people, Isker tends to project his own feelings onto his critics,
which he then uses to justify kicking everything up a couple of notches.
Magic and Witchcraft
Among people outside of his immediate audience, Isker
might be most famous for being the guy who refuses to walk through advanced airport security scanners out of fear
that they act as ‘gay beam’ machines that will alter his sexuality (Isker’s
sexuality is a fickle thing). Indeed, Isker is worried about magic in general,
although he does think that witchcraft “stopped working” in the Americas after the arrival of
European Christians – though it seems to have required an adjustment period: He
defended the Salem witch trials on the grounds that “weird stuff”
happened at the time that had “no rational explanation whatsoever.” (Not
that Isker would have the faintest idea what ‘rational’ means.) He also likened
the conquest of witchcraft by Christian Americans in the US to the the “miraculous”
conquest of the Aztec Empire by Spanish conquistadors, which, as he views it,
literally put an end to the Aztec gods; “the Americas was a very dark place,
very evil place that Christianity helped to mostly eradicate.”
Projects
Currently residing in Gainesboro, Tennessee, Isker –
who interned under Douglas Wilson,
no less, meaning that his Pete Hegseth number is 1 – is the founder of the Whitleyville Reformation Church and, more
importantly, a central figure in the Ridgerunner real estate project (described
here),
a 448-acre affinity-based residential community designed as a rural refuge for
pugnacious theocracy-oriented racist fundies; as Isker points out, “[i]f you
have towns that we're going to be building – where there are a lot of people
that are very politically motivated and very well organized and are
out-punching, you know, their weight class in terms of influence – you can have
as much influence as one of the big cities in Tennessee.”
The project is led by two companies: New Founding,
whose CEO Nate Fischer has declared the principles of the U.S. Constitution are
“long gone” and that Christian nationalism “represents a positive Christian vision for government”,
and Ridgerunner, led by Josh Abbotoy, who thinks that “America is going to
need a Protestant Franco”; Isker and Engel are official ambassadors of the
project. The goal of the effort is to create a community that returns to the America
that existed before the civil rights movement “ruined everything,” which
is free of immigrants, and which puts women back where Isker and his companions
think women belong. To achieve those goals, Isker, Engel, Fischer and Abbotoy are
prepared to accept Abbotoy’s idea of Protestant dictator who will rule
according to their own (i.e. Isker’s, Engel’s, Fischer’s and/or Abbotoy’s)
interpretation of what it means to be a Christian.
Isker is also the author of a number of a couple of
books, like Christian Nationalism: A Biblical Guide For Taking Dominion And
Discipling Nations (with Gab-founder Andrew Torba)
and The Boniface Option: A Strategy for Christian Counteroffensive in a
Post-Christian Nation.
Diagnosis: It is important to note that when they are
criticized, Isker and Engel often laugh and accuse people of taking them “too
seriously”. And in one sense, we do: Isker and Engel are ultimately proponents
of groyper bugaloo nihilist shit, the bastard child of Gen X irony and
nazi-style frustration with norms that require decency and respect. But, as
e.g. their Tennessee project shows, that doesn’t mean that they don’t want to
see the evil they promote put into action; Isker and Engel do destructive
things very seriously while laughing, using the idea of ironic distance as both
a defensive and offensive weapon; they belong to the same faction of American
extremism as Nick Fuentes and his ilk, and it’s a dangerous faction.